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	<title>Comments on: Swiftfox, why are&#8217;t we good nerds anymore?</title>
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		<title>By: Browsing on Linux &#171; Fitness for the Occasion</title>
		<link>http://kubasik.net/blog/2007/03/27/swiftfox-why-aret-we-good-nerds-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>Browsing on Linux &#171; Fitness for the Occasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This fellow had a few benchmarks to try, and I gave the only one still up a go.  Here are my results by browser (key: I ran the test three times, with the format &#8220;first render&#8221; &#124; &#8220;refresh&#8221; &#124; &#8220;close browser and render again&#8221;): http://scragz.com/archived/mozilla/test-rendering-time [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This fellow had a few benchmarks to try, and I gave the only one still up a go.  Here are my results by browser (key: I ran the test three times, with the format &#8220;first render&#8221; | &#8220;refresh&#8221; | &#8220;close browser and render again&#8221;): <a href="http://scragz.com/archived/mozilla/test-rendering-time" rel="nofollow">http://scragz.com/archived/mozilla/test-rendering-time</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kubasik</title>
		<link>http://kubasik.net/blog/2007/03/27/swiftfox-why-aret-we-good-nerds-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Kubasik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the OpenID thing, its probably on my end, try registering/logging in using one of the other login boxes, I&#039;ve been having some odd redirect issues when using the ajaxified inline ones when I was trying to make my site standards compliant again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the OpenID thing, its probably on my end, try registering/logging in using one of the other login boxes, I&#8217;ve been having some odd redirect issues when using the ajaxified inline ones when I was trying to make my site standards compliant again.</p>
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		<title>By: trs80</title>
		<link>http://kubasik.net/blog/2007/03/27/swiftfox-why-aret-we-good-nerds-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>trs80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use swiftfox, and for me the most noticeable thing is switching tabs is much faster. The tests you have above are primarily javascript and don&#039;t cover switching tabs at all.

Also, profile.typekey.com/trs80 didn&#039;t work with your OpenID system - dunno if its your problem or theirs, but it does work elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use swiftfox, and for me the most noticeable thing is switching tabs is much faster. The tests you have above are primarily javascript and don&#8217;t cover switching tabs at all.</p>
<p>Also, profile.typekey.com/trs80 didn&#8217;t work with your OpenID system &#8211; dunno if its your problem or theirs, but it does work elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: jammy</title>
		<link>http://kubasik.net/blog/2007/03/27/swiftfox-why-aret-we-good-nerds-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>jammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feisty Gnome has an easy tweak.  Apparently it has to do with Gnome problems.  http://beuno.com.ar/?p=4

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/+bug/94048
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/26419

Kerry S:
&quot;This is a fix for the new system that was started back in edgy where the host name was split off to 127.0.1.1, the problem is that some applications still look for the host name @ 127.0.0.1, so to keep those applications happy and running smoothly you simple need to add the host name where those applications expect it to be.&quot;&quot;

Upstart is also not fully optimized yet, but they will release updated scripts by the time Feisty is released for optional download, and Feisty+1 will have em by default.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2264992#post2264992</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feisty Gnome has an easy tweak.  Apparently it has to do with Gnome problems.  <a href="http://beuno.com.ar/?p=4" rel="nofollow">http://beuno.com.ar/?p=4</a></p>
<p><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/+bug/94048" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/+bug/94048</a><br />
<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/26419" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/26419</a></p>
<p>Kerry S:<br />
&#8220;This is a fix for the new system that was started back in edgy where the host name was split off to 127.0.1.1, the problem is that some applications still look for the host name @ 127.0.0.1, so to keep those applications happy and running smoothly you simple need to add the host name where those applications expect it to be.&#8221;"</p>
<p>Upstart is also not fully optimized yet, but they will release updated scripts by the time Feisty is released for optional download, and Feisty+1 will have em by default.<br />
<a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2264992#post2264992" rel="nofollow">http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2264992#post2264992</a></p>
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		<title>By: arne</title>
		<link>http://kubasik.net/blog/2007/03/27/swiftfox-why-aret-we-good-nerds-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>arne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..and if you really want speed: Get Opera. I use Epiphany though and do not feel slow ;-)

( I forgot to mention: all applications where from a ubuntu Feisty installation ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..and if you really want speed: Get Opera. I use Epiphany though and do not feel slow <img src='http://kubasik.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>( I forgot to mention: all applications where from a ubuntu Feisty installation ).</p>
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		<title>By: arne</title>
		<link>http://kubasik.net/blog/2007/03/27/swiftfox-why-aret-we-good-nerds-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>arne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My times on a MacBook Core Duo 1.83Ghz (T2400):

test-rendering-time:
Epiphany: 1st load: 9.3
    2nd load: 8.4
Swiftfox: 1st load: 8.8
    2nd load: 8.4
Opera: 1st load: 7.4
    2nd load: 1.8
Konqueror: 1st load: 7.5
    2nd load:
IE6 on Wine: 1st load: 7.94
    2nd load: 6.9

BenchJS:
Epiphany
1: 1.414
2: 2.305
3: 1.526
4: 1.601
5: 0.219
6: 2.163
7: 0.678

Swiftfox:
1: 1.479
2: 1.336
3: 0.48
4: 0.482
5: 0.186
6: 1.882
7: 0.669

Opera:
1: 1.255
2: 0.927
3: 0.416
4: 0.363
5: 0.13
6: 2.059
7: 0.282

Konqueror:
1: 11.711
2: 1.053
3: 2.414
4: 3.418
5: 1.751
6: 3.77
7: 1.157

IE6 on Wine:
1: 16.654
2: 76.319
3: 2.128
4: 0.864
5: 0.455
6: 5.379
7: 2.085

JSSpeed:
Epiphany: 1030
Swiftfox: 1100
Opera: 450
Konqueror: 760
IE6 on Wine: 2300

My conclusion: Swiftfox does not make much sense , the overall speed gain should barely be noticeable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My times on a MacBook Core Duo 1.83Ghz (T2400):</p>
<p>test-rendering-time:<br />
Epiphany: 1st load: 9.3<br />
    2nd load: 8.4<br />
Swiftfox: 1st load: 8.8<br />
    2nd load: 8.4<br />
Opera: 1st load: 7.4<br />
    2nd load: 1.8<br />
Konqueror: 1st load: 7.5<br />
    2nd load:<br />
IE6 on Wine: 1st load: 7.94<br />
    2nd load: 6.9</p>
<p>BenchJS:<br />
Epiphany<br />
1: 1.414<br />
2: 2.305<br />
3: 1.526<br />
4: 1.601<br />
5: 0.219<br />
6: 2.163<br />
7: 0.678</p>
<p>Swiftfox:<br />
1: 1.479<br />
2: 1.336<br />
3: 0.48<br />
4: 0.482<br />
5: 0.186<br />
6: 1.882<br />
7: 0.669</p>
<p>Opera:<br />
1: 1.255<br />
2: 0.927<br />
3: 0.416<br />
4: 0.363<br />
5: 0.13<br />
6: 2.059<br />
7: 0.282</p>
<p>Konqueror:<br />
1: 11.711<br />
2: 1.053<br />
3: 2.414<br />
4: 3.418<br />
5: 1.751<br />
6: 3.77<br />
7: 1.157</p>
<p>IE6 on Wine:<br />
1: 16.654<br />
2: 76.319<br />
3: 2.128<br />
4: 0.864<br />
5: 0.455<br />
6: 5.379<br />
7: 2.085</p>
<p>JSSpeed:<br />
Epiphany: 1030<br />
Swiftfox: 1100<br />
Opera: 450<br />
Konqueror: 760<br />
IE6 on Wine: 2300</p>
<p>My conclusion: Swiftfox does not make much sense , the overall speed gain should barely be noticeable</p>
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